Tibbie Stakes 2024 Tips, Betting Odds, Past Winners & Results

The Group 3 Tibbie Stakes is a 1400-metre race for fillies and mares three years old and older that is run at Broadmeadow Racecourse in Newcastle, NSW during the month of September.

The running conditions are set weights plus penalties. The trip is that 1400-metre that stretches the pure sprinters and fools the middle distance horses into thinking they have more ground than they do.

  

 

 

Tibbie Stakes Race Details

Date: 13/9/2024

Time: TBC

Racecourse: Newcastle

Race Distance: 2400m

Conditions: TBC

Prize Money: $200,000

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When Is The Tibbie Stakes: 13/9/2024

What Time Is The Tibbie Stakes: TBC

Where Is The Tibbie Stakes: Newcastle Racecourse

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More Details About The Tibbie Stakes

The race is run on a Friday afternoon rather than a Saturday meeting. The Group 3 Newcastle Gold Cup is the feature race and the other Group 3 race for the meeting is the Cameron Handicap.

Prizemoney for the Tibbie Stakes is $200,000.

Madam Legend was the winner in 2021, running from the outside barrier to beat Mirra Vision by a nose to earn the $83,000 winner’s share, plus a $1400 bonus for a total of $84,400.

The following link will supply a replay of Madam Legend winning the 2021 Tibbie Stakes.

History of the Tibbie Stakes

The Tibbie Stakes was first run in 2005.

Such a new race does not possess a lot of history. We do know that from the first jump in 2005 through the race held in 2015, the trip was 1400-metres. It was shortened by 50 metres for the 2016 edition for reasons unclear. The Tibbie Stakes returned to its original length of 1400-metres in 2017 and through the 2021 jump of the race, the Newcastle Jockey Club has not seen the need for any alterations to the trip.

The idea, though, that a smaller racing jurisdiction could find the money for a Group 3 race in the early years of the 21st century bodes well for the Thoroughbred racing industry.

Too recent to have ever been a Principal race, the Tibbie Stakes launched as a Listed race and was elevated to Group 3 beginning in 2013.

The winner of the first race in 2005, Shalimar Sky, earned half of what 2021 winner Madam Legend received, another positive sign for the sport of kings.

As of 2021, we have yet to see a multiple winner of the Tibbie Stakes.

It is risky to compare winning times, as it is hard to know definitively if the fastest horse was the fastest horse because of native speed, or if running conditions on the day the record was set were ideal for a faster horse having a great day.

Still, the fastest time in the race belongs to 2009 winner Moti that covered the 1400-metres in 1:22:37. The Tibbie Stakes was her last win and the race was still Listed then. It would be accurate to say that she never jumped in a Group race.

What Moti was able to do was to supply her trainer, Gai Waterhouse, with the second Tibbie Stakes win for Waterhouse. The first was Yolo in 2006. The third win was courtesy of More Strawberries in 2011 and two years later, 2013 winner Vaquera supplied the most recent Tibbie Stakes win for Waterhouse.

How much of a hand Waterhouse had in the preparation of those winners is impossible to say, but even if they were trained primarily by Waterhouse assistants, Gai Waterhouse was the one who was directing those assistants.

To conclude the history of the Tibbie Stakes, we mention that the race was abandoned in 2007 out of concern for the equine influenza outbreak in NSW that was kept from becoming a deadly epidemic by the swift and effective quarantine procedures put in place by the racing authorities.

Venue for the Tibbie Stakes

The race has always been held at its inaugural location, which is Broadmeadow Racecourse in Newcastle, the second largest city in NSW. The track is often called simply Newcastle, as it saves a syllable when speaking the names. If you check our page with details about all the Australian racecourses, you will find no reference to Broadmeadow Racecourse, but you will find all anyone could need to know about Newcastle Racecourse.

An inner track known as the Beaumont Track was added in 2015. The track opened in 1882 and while it may have been difficult in those early years to lure the better types from the south, the difficulty had the benefit of enabling Newcastle to establish a vibrant racing scene of its own.

Newcastle is a standard oval with long straights and turns on either end that blend. The stands and the car park are on the south straight that is horses travel from east to west due to the racing at Newcastle being conducted in a clockwise direction.

For a 1400-metre event such as the Tibbie Stakes, the gallopers jump from a barrier close to the head of the straight on the north side of the course, they run the straight and one sweeping turn, and then head home to finish near the end of the 415-metre home straight.

Racing History of the Tibbie Stakes

The racing history of the Tibbie Stakes is somewhat of a good news/bad news scenario. The bad news is that a race that will jump for just the 17th time in 2022, and is run in the boonies of Newcastle, offers nothing in the way of notable winners, at least not on first glance.

The good news is that a race that jumped for the first time in 2005 will offer good, detailed records of every horse that won the Tibbie Stakes and every horse that jumped in the Tibbie Stakes.

We might find a diamond amidst the roughies, so let us have a look at the past winners to see if any surprises await us.

The race was won in its first name by Shalimar Sky.

She had an impressive pedigree and her lines connect to Bletchingly, Biscay and Star Kingdom. Other greats that contributed were Nijinsky, Wilkes, Northern Dancer and Nearctic.

Shalimar Sky made 17 jumps for five wins and six placings, with prizemoney earned of under $200,000, the sort of money that might be found between the cushions of trainers like Chris Waller or Gai Waterhouse, or stashed under some straw in the stalls of Winx and Redzel. To say she was a modest mare is being kind. The Tibbie Stakes was her last and best win, although it was Listed at the time and Shalimar Sky would win some other Listed races that eventually were lifted to Group level.

The aspect of the 2005 Tibbie Stakes that caught our attention and caused us to mention Chris Waller was that a trainer named Guy Walter trained Shalimar Sky, Fantasia, Johan’s Toy and Hennessy Waltz – the first four to cross in the race. Shalimar Sky might not have been a great galloper, but Walter is a more-than-capable trainer with almost 1400 career winners, $58 million in prizemoney and 35 Group 1 wins on his training resume.

The first of four Tibbie Stakes wins by Gai Waterhouse came in 2006 when the winner was Yolo.

Yolo was another of the type you might expect from Newcastle racing. The Tibbie Stakes was her best win, but we cannot but suspect that if the race had been Group 3, Yolo might not have gained a slot.

The following year was the year of many races being cancelled due to the horse flu epidemic that tore through NSW stables before being snuffed out before the damage became too severe.

The Tibbie Stakes resumed in 2008 and was won by a five-year-old mare named Miss Pageantry. She was better than the previous winners, but only just. She jumped in the Group 2 Villiers Stakes at Randwick a few starts before winning the Tibbie Stakes. She ran fourth to Honor In War, Takeover Target and Alverta, even though she was way up in class and jumped as the second favourite.

A New Zealand mare named Moti won the race in 2009.

She was the best to date in terms of prizemoney, winning over $300,000 from 14 starts for 8 wins and 2 placings. We would opine that about $150,000 of her stakes came as the result of having Zabeel for a grandsire.

We must interject at this time that we have examined the stud record of the Tibbie Stakes winners and through Moti’s win in 2009, we found stakes winning foals, but nothing notable.

Vintedge won in 2010 and the constant progression in the quality and the results of the winners is apparent.

Vintedge won the following year at Group 2 level when she won the Matriarch Stakes on her way to taking in $600,000 in earnings. She did make 43 jumps, so her connections apparently believed she had more potential on the track than in the barn. The connections had the right idea, it seems, although they never threw Vintedge into a Group 1 race.

More Strawberries won the race in 2011.

She was the third galloper prepared by Gai Waterhouse to win the Tibbie Stakes. She made 19 jumps for four wins and five placings on her way to returning about $850,000 in prizemoney. She won two consecutive Group 2 races in 2010 with victories over Divorces in the Furious Stakes and over Parables in the Tea Rose Stakes. She came within a head of winning the Group 1 Flight Stakes at Randwick from Secret Admirer.

The next winner for 2012 was Nocturnelle.

She was a step or two back compared to More Strawberries, so the upward progression of the quality of the Tibbie Stakes winners was halted. She produced a foal by Redoute’s Choice in 2015 and two by Snitzel, one in 2014 and one in 2017. Those three combined have about $200,000 in earnings.

If Nocturnelle had waited a year to win the Tibbie Stakes, she would have had a Group win to her credit. The Tibbie Stakes and the Angst Stakes were her best wins. After winning some benchmark grade races, she was sent out in the Group 2 Angus Armanasco Stakes, but she could not stay in touch with the front and ran sixth by five lengths.

A New Zealander by the name of Vaquera was the winner in 2013. That win came after she was sent out in the Group 1 Queensland Oaks. She placed third, but was out of touch with the winner. Vaquera has produced named foals by Sebring and Snitzel, but nothing that has landed on the stakes money radar.

Vaquera was the fourth and final Gai Waterhouse prepared galloper to win the Tibbie Stakes. It was the first time the race was run at Group 3 quality and there are times when it seems to us as though promotion to Group level followed Gai Waterhouse around similar to how it helped Kingston Town to amass so many Group wins.

Fine Bubbles was the winner in 2014.

She had to make 35 jumps to win $322,000. Of those 35, she won five and had 11 placings. She has had some success at stud, delivering foals by I Am Invincible, Written Tycoon and others that have at least some stakes money to report.

She's Clean was the winner in 2015 and she more or less follows the pattern of all the prior winners. She was by Redoute’s Choice and she managed to win over $700,000, but she needed 48 jumps to win 10 times and place 12 times. The Tibbie Stakes was her best Group win, although she did win other Group 3s and she performed respectably when lined up in some Group 2 and Group 1 races, although she did not win.

New Zealand’s Spirit Bird won the Tibbie Stakes in 2016.

She won only two races from 16 jumps, with seven placings. It would be fair to say that she did not live up to her sire Savabeel or her grandsire Zabeel, but that’s racing. She does not appear to have produced any offspring.

The first winner of the Tibbie Stakes to go over $1 million in earnings was 2017 winner Zanbagh. It took her 47 jumps for seven wins and seven placings to achieve that million-dollar distinction. Her take was over $1.2 million.

Zanbagh nearly won the Group 1 Crown Oaks at Flemington in 2013, falling by a head to Kirramosa. She produced another second in the Group 1 ATC Oaks at Randwick, falling to Rising Romance, but beating Lucia Valentina. Zanbagh’s best wins was the Group 2 Emancipation Stakes at Rosehill that she won in 2016 and 2017. She had another brush with fame when she ran second by half a length to Foxplay in the 2017 Group 1 Queen of the Turf Stakes.

Princess Posh was the winner in 2018.

She earned over three quarters of a million dollars from 33 jumps for 8 wins and 12 placings. She beat the good mare Savatiano to win the Tibbie Stakes by over a length. She won the Newmarket Handicap in 2019, but it was the Newcastle Newmarket, not THE Newmarket Handicap that is run at Flemington.

She was second in the 2019 Kingsford Smith Cup to The Bostonian, but the horse she beat into third was none other than Trekking.

Sweet Deal was a productive mare that won in 2019. She is now retired after making 48 jumps for 11 wins and 11 placings to earn over $1.6 million. Sweet Deal paid a lot of dues in benchmark and other similar races and the Tibbie was her first try at Group racing. She would win other Group 3 races, but never a Group 2 or a Group 1 win.

We conclude with 2020 Tibbie Stakes winner All Saints’ Eve.

She won four times with three placings from 18 jumps before being exported. The Tibbie Stakes was her best win. She earned over $640,000, simply by showing up and doing okay, it seems.

Finally, there was Madam Legend in 2021 that we detailed mentioned in the beginning.

The Tibbie Stakes will never be confused with the big race in the south, but it is a good race for certain types. There has been none to win a Group 1 race and just a couple that won at Group 2.

The winners have all been handy types, with only a couple surpassing $1 million in earnings and none of the winners were or have been all that great as breeders, but there are thousands and thousands of Thoroughbred gallopers that have been able to win a Group 3 race.

Tibbie Stakes Past Winners