ATC Carbine Club Stakes 2024 Tips, Betting Odds, Past Winners & Results

The Group 3 ATC Carbine Club Stakes is for three-year-olds of any gender that race 1600 metres under set weight plus penalty conditions at Randwick Racecourse in Sydney during autumn racing in late March or early April.

Prize money for the Carbine Club Stakes is $200,000, with the top prize of $110,000 going to The Fortune Teller that last raced, as of mid-August, in April of 2023 when a jump in the Group 2 Queensland Guineas at Eagle Farm returned a 10th place result.

 

 

Carbine Club Stakes Race Details

Date: 6/4/24

Time: TBA

Racecourse: Randwick

Race Distance: 1600m

Conditions: TBA

Prize Money: $200,000

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When Is The Carbine Club Stakes: 6/4/24

What Time Is The Carbine Club Stakes: TBA

Where Is The Carbine Club Stakes: Randwick Racecourse

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More Details About The Carbine Club Stakes

The Fortune Teller is currently aged four. This gelding by an American stallion has made 10 jumps for two wins and four placings to earn $344,000.

This article is about the race that is held at Randwick. There is an identical race in grade, trip, and running conditions, but with 2.5 times the prize money, held at Flemington during spring racing.

The race has been jumping as one of four Group 3, one Group 2 and four Group 1 races that are collectively known, together with the big, four Group 1-race meeting the following week, as The Championships.

Eight of the 20 Group 1 races staged at Randwick each year jump at those two meetings.

History of the Carbine Club Stakes

The race first jumped in 1981, attaining Listed grade status in 1986. The race was promoted to Group 3 in 2011.

It has always jumped at Randwick and the trip has always been 1600 metres.

It is named for the great champion of the 19th century, Carbine.

Carbine was so good that there are races named for him in two states, making us here at Pro Group Racing think that at a minimum, Carbine should have a Group 2 race, with a Group 1 designation deserving of a valid case.

His earnings when he retired in to stud in 1892 were a record that stood for 20 years and after racing, Carbine was a prolific stud, sire to Wallace and contributor to the lines of great racers such as Makybe Diva and Sunline. The mighty Winx traces her lines to Carbine through both her sire and her dam.

Venue for the ATC Carbine Club Stakes

The ATC Carbine Club Stakes has always jumped at Royal Randwick Racecourse in Sydney, New South Wales.

The only hiccup the running of the race has ever undergone was in 2015, when the track was too heavy for Easter Saturday racing and so was moved forward two days to Easter Monday.

Randwick was staging races as early as 1833, but the site was used for training purposes only in 1840. Later in the decade, the Australian Jockey Club was formed, making Randwick its headquarters in 1860.

Randwick has 20 Group 1 races during the year, many of them prestigious legacy races that cover much of the history of Australian turf galloping. They also offer 19 Group 2 and 9 Group 3 races.

The big money race at Randwick is held during the spring. The Everest offers $15 million in prize money in a sprint race that is limited to 12 racers that have been sponsored with a $600,000 entry fee.

For 1600-metre races at Randwick, the barriers are placed at the head of the back straight. A turn follows, leading onto a short straight that connects to the home turn and the home straight to finish at the stands on the northeast side of the course.

Racing History of the ATC Carbine Club Stakes

There were several familiar-looking names on the list of winners of the Carbine Club Stakes, but by several, we mean only a few.

This is not the sort of race that is going to get the better types. There are simply too many top echelon 1600-metre races for trainers and owners to squander a talented three-year-old on an age-restricted Group 3 race.

As we go through the list, we will be looking for gallopers that made racing impacts as two, four, five or older racers.

We hope for some Group 1 winners, some significant studs, and those that made good stakes earnings from racing.

If we do not mention a progeny record, it means that the winner of the race was a gelding or did not procreate after racing.

The first winner in 1981 was Around The Traps.

This gelding jumped in the Group 1 All-Aged Stakes and finished second to a three-time Group 1 winner named Gold Hope, but the interesting facet of that run was that Around The Traps finished ahead of Manikato.

The winner in 1982, Noble Ambition, was an entire, but it appears that his entire contribution to racing was the Carbine Club Stakes win and one colt that appears to have done nothing.

We can write the exact same thing again, except change to the name of the 1983 winner, Fairy God.

The following year, 1984 brought Bring Home as the winner.

Bring Home won the 1985 Royal Parma Stakes by beating Doncaster Mile winner Row Of Waves, but his win in the Carbine was two years before the Carbine Club Stakes would receive Listed grade status. Those first few jumps of the Carbine Club Stakes supply a tone to the winners’ list, a tone of average types that won this race and perhaps some other races, but never rose in grade as older horses.

We intend to skip any winner of the race that did not contribute to racing either as a racer or as a breeder.

The 1986 winner, Faris King, was unexceptional as a racer or a breeder and we mention him for his sire line of Gypsy Kingdom – Planet Kingdom – Star Kingdom.

The 1988 winner was Rigoletto.

His path back to Star Kingdom was through his sire Bletchingly and his grand sire Biscay. He beat competition from his class, including Roman Senator in The Shorts and Harlan Star in the Carbine and the 1988 Darby Munro Quality Handicap.

Rigoletto was a good sire after racing with close to 100 offspring, with five top winners in the earnings range of $100,000 to $660,000.

It would appear that we have noticed a pattern of winners that were horses kept whole for stud duty, so when we identified what we believe was the first filly to win the race, we sat up.

She was a Kiwi filly named New Acquaintance that won three races, with the Carbine Club Stakes her best win.

New Acquaintance made a far large contribution as a dam. She supplied six colts and five fillies to top sires. Her best was Knowledge by Last Tycoon, a 1994 colt bred and owned by T. J. Smith and trained by Lee Freedman that took advantage of a Group 1 win in the Blue Diamond Stakes and another in the Blue Diamond Preview (colts & geldings) to earn over $600,000 from just nine jumps.

Another good progeny by New Acquaintance was the 2003 filly Maslins Beach by Flying Spur that earned above $214,000 from 18 attempts.

The winner of the Carbine Club Stakes in 1993 was Golden Sword.

This one was better than the previous winners by a good margin.

This New Zealand entire with lines to Vain and Wilkes on the side of his dam Lovenvain won at Group 1 level twice with back-to-back wins in the 1993 Epsom Handicap and the Toorak Handicap at Caulfield just a week later.

Golden Sword won over $740,000 from just 22 jumps for eight wins and three placings.

He fizzled as a stallion, though.

We found a familiar name and a better type in the 1995 winner Juggler.

He could well be our answer to the unending question of what such a good horse was doing in such a mundane race.

Juggler was a gelding by a U.S. sire that made 60 jumps for 15 wins, 26 placings and winnings of $2.4 million. He had the ability to win four Group 1 races by beating Filante and All Our Mob in the 1996 George Main Stakes. Magnet Bay was the good horse Juggler beat to win the Caulfield Stakes. March Hare was the loser to Juggler in the 1996 Chipping Norton Stakes. The most impressive of Juggler’s four Group 1 wins was the win over Doriemus in the 1996 Doomben Cup.

Le Zagaletta was a million dollar-earning gelding by Ireland’s Last Tycoon, with additional speed via dam Swiftsynd that had lines to Gunsynd, Bletchingly, Biscay and Star Kingdom.

He made 65 jumps for 14 wins and 20 placings to return prize money earnings of $1.3 million.

Le Zagaletta raced against such types as Regal Roller and Yell, beating Elvstroem in the 2005 Group 3 Bletchingly Stakes and when he won the then Group 2 Memsie Stakes in 2003, he was beating Super Elegant. He was in several races with Makybe Diva without besting her.

Toulouse Lautrec was the Carbine Club Stakes winner in 2004.

He was a gelding by Danewin with solid Aussie blood from dam Dancing Colour. She did not race much, but she offered DNA from the likes of Bletchingly, U.S. sire Mr. Prospector, Biscay and Star Kingdom.

Toulouse Lautrec made 51 jumps for 12 wins and 7 placings for earnings of $858,000, with a Group 1 win in the 2004 Queensland Derby.

After running his flats races, Toulouse Lautrec became a steeplechaser, winning the 2008 Australian Steeplechase and other races in 2008 where he was unbeaten going over the jumps.

A good entire named Road To Rock by Encosta De Lago won in 2008.

He is one of the better Carbine Club Stakes winners, with Group 1 wins in the 2010 Queen Elizabeth Stakes, where he beat notables in Triple Honour and Monaco Consul. He beat Black Piranha in the 2009 George Main Stakes and Arapaho Miss in the 2009 Victoria Gold Cup.

Road To Rock was a prolific breeder with 45 offspring that earned prize money from racing. He had several that won above $300,000.

Another Encosta De Lago progeny, Needs Further, won the Carbine Club Stakes in 2011, the first year the race was graded at Group 3.

Needs Further made only five jumps for three wins and one placing. The Carbine Club Stakes was his best win. He got further with many Aussie mares and delivered the 2015 filly Mystic Journey that won over $4.1 million.

We suspect, based on what we have seen to this stage of the race history, that Needs Further will take the prize for the best progeny supplier from the list of winners of the race. Two other offspring won above $500,000 and five others earned between 100 and 300 thousand in prize monies.

Fat Al, a gelding that won in 2012 won the Group 1 Epsom Handicap and the Group 3 Frank Packer Plate that same year, making his way into our discourse thanks to the Group 1 win.

The next winner from 2013 was Toydini.

He was a gelding of mainly northern hemisphere origins, but his dam, Johans’s Toy, traced lines to Australia’s Toy Show, winner of six Group 1 races.

Toydini was lightly raced for a gelding, although we cannot rule out anything that may have limited him to 27 jumps for five wins and five placings for $688,000 in prize money. He is listed as retired, which beats being listed as exported or deceased.

Gypsy Diamond was a better filly by Not A Single Doubt that won in 2014. She failed to win at Group 1, but managed to supply consistent high placings, enough to earn $753,000 from 27 jumps for four wins and seven placings.

She supplied three foals, one by Lonhro, one by I Am Invincible and one by Brazen Beau, but it does not appear as though any of her offspring equaled or surpassed her as a racer.

A heavy track forced the cancellation of the Easter Saturday meeting in 2015.

The race was moved to Easter Monday and was won by an entire by Ireland’s High Chaparral named Hi World.

Hi World was similar to many of the other winners in that his other good win aside from the Carbine was the 2015 Group 3 Frank Packer Plate. He left a form line 22 jumps for four wins and three placings to earn $341,000. Now aged 12 years as of mid-August of 2023, his stud career has been undistinguished.

A Group 1 winner of the 2016 Toorak Handicap, He's Our Rokkii was the winner in 2016.

He's Our Rokkii is a New Zealand gelding that made 29 jumps for seven wins and four placings. That equated to prize money of $786,000.

Entente was a 2016 gelding by Dundeel that won the race in 2020.

He is listed as spelling after his most recent jump in September of 2022, so our suspicion is that Entente’s race has been run.

He earned $888,000 from 27 jumps for six wins and eight placings, but only time will tell if trainers Gai Waterhouse and Adrian Bott or the connections will field Entente again.

A rare filly was tipped as the winner in 2021.

Her name was Kiku. She was by Zoustar, so it is not surprising that she won over $1.2 million from 30 jumps for 6 wins and 11 placings.

She is still racing, last jumping at Eagle Farm in June of 2023, where she was 12th of 17 in the Group 1 Tatt’s Tiara.

Straight Arron won in 2022.

Now five, this gelding by Fastnet Rock has been exported after four jumps for two wins and two placings for a paltry $161,000.

The ATC Carbine Club Stakes is possible to confuse with the VRC version of the race. There is also a race by the same name in Western Australia.

We found a couple of better types on the list of winners, but there were just two fillies and plenty of just average geldings that won the race.

We would conclude that Juggler from 1995 was the best racer, while Needs Further from 2011 was the best stallion by dint of producing Mystic Journey.

Carbine Club Stakes Past Winners